Posted By: Akela (Akela) on 'CZscience'
Title: Re: Ruka kolem vody - UPRESNENI
Date: Thu Sep 16 20:27:29 1999
Ahoj,
diky vsem za reakce. Za "odmenu" vas zahltim dlouhym postem s vice
informacemi (:-o) Vydrzte to do konce:
Zarizeni (tj Petriho miska s vodou nebo kotoucek na jehle) neni na (tresouci
se :-) ruce, nybrz pevne na stole. Ruka se toho nedotyka, je jen dlani
obtocena kolem toho, netrese se a jeji dlan taky lezi na stole.
Nedelal jsem pokus s miskou+vodou, nybrz s kotouckem na jehle, coz ma
byt citlivejsi varianta tehoz. Je to komercni produkt, viz www stranka
z meho prvniho postu. Kotoucek ma prumer asi 7 cm a je z plastu
potazeneho hlinikovym filmem a opatreneho asi tak stovkou zarezu po
obvodu. Ten hlinik a zarezy tam ale podle mych dalsich informaci
nejsou dulezite, jsou tam snad jenom pro lepsi funkci optickeho
snimaciho zarizeni (LEDka + fotodioda), snimajiciho rychlost otaceni.
Vec se da koupit u nas, stoji asi Kc 3500,-. A na CVUT FEL, kde
pracuju, ji jeden chlapek ma. Mel jsem to dost dlouho pujcene a
opravdu se to toci! Je to hodne citlive na vzdusne proudy a funeni
pokusne osoby, ale chovani toho je prinejmensim divne: toceni ROZHODNE
neni nahoda, pouhy sum zpusobeny proudy vzduchu. Nekdy se to toci
snadno, jindy to da hroznou praci nebo se to netoci vubec. Vetsinou
se dosahne tak rychost 1 otacka za 5-10 sekund.
Vec "vynalezl" Madar jmenem Egely (cti Egej) a dostal za ni nekolik
cen (mj zlatou medaili na vystave vynalezu v Zeneve), objizdi s tim
veletrhy... S tim clovekem jsem mirne v kontaktu a chci tam jet. Ma
PhD z USA v necem jako proudeni kapalin, coz ovsem nic neznamena, muze
to byt i tak blbec nebo podvodnik :-) Vec je tak draha hlavne kvuli
elektronice vevnitr. Velkou praci mu pry dalo vyvinout zaves kolecka
na jehle tak, aby treni bylo co nejmensi...
Jake zavery jsem z toho udelal:
* (BACHA! - TOHLE CTETE PORADNE): Jsem naprosto dalek toho
vysvetlovat to jevy, ktere nejsou vedou oficialne uznane. Je to sice
prezentovano jako "Vitality Meter", ktery meri vasi zivotni energii (a
z chovani kolecka by se o tom dalo spekulovat - kdyz se citim v pohode
a plnej sily, tak se vazne zda, ze se to toci o dost snadnejc
:-). Snazim se jen zcela seriozne zjistit, cim to je.
* I KDYZ: Malilinkaty cervicek ve mne prece jen hloda: Autori to
prezentuji tak, ze to detekuje to, co se nazyva slovem aura. Ze je to
(snad prvni?) opakovatelny a v zaplnene poslucharne predveditelny
pokus na jeji detekci. Pokud to tak je, a at uz se slovem aura mysli
cokoliv (treba i sikovnou konfiguraci elmg pole kolem tela) je to
velmi zajimave.
* TAKZE: Povazuju za dulezite zjistit mechanismus, jakym se to
toci. Pravdepodobne se ukaze, ze je to pouha sikovna, i kdyz
prekvapiva fyzika. V tom pripade by se zprovodil ze sveta jeden
"podvod", protoze ti lidi to prodavaji a dostavaji za to ceny na
vystavach vynalezu :-)
* Co cloveka napadne samozrejme hned, je vec zcela zakryt, nejlepe
dat do supravodive Farad. klece a vycerpat vzduch. A
kdyby se to i pak tocilo!! - no, to je na Nobelovku ne ?
Jenze kdyz se to uplne uzavre, tak se to netoci :-( Ale i PRES
TENTO FAKT je chovani toho PODIVNE - lze to nechat otevrene jen na
strane odvracene od ruky, a to jeste tak, ze s velkou rezervou neni
prima viditelnost mezi rukou a koleckem. Viz obrazek, znazornujici
pudorys stiniciho plechu; znak "o" je stred kolecka:
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Jinak je to zavrene zespoda i zeshora.
Ten Madar se pry uz nekolik let snazi to zcela zakryt. Pretiskuju
kus mailu od nej o tom (snad mi promine :):
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thank you for your letter and your interest in our invention and product, the
Egely Wheel. I shall send you two research reports written in English years
ago about this subject. These include the control experiments and some force
density measurements - on rotating liquid, which was the original subject of
research.
I have spent more than ten years with this research, most of the time with
control experiments. I am a researcher in heat transfer and fluid flow. After
a long-long period of hesitation filled with thousands of unpublished
experiments I've became convinced that this unusual rotating effect exists.
It is "conducted" by all materials, though to a different degree. Some
christals, as ametist (a form of SiO2) and ferromagnets conduct it better,
some amorphous materials, as glass or foams conduct it worse.
I have worked for years to be able to cover the wheel, but I was unable to
solve this problem - most probably due to the abovementioned result.
Consequently, any attempt to cover the wheel is most likely to fail -
because any cover will be a sort of "Faraday cage", where the walls will
conduct this strange form of energy, thus it will not get to the wheel.
I have developed a sort of "amplifier" or "resonator" (available at Janex
s.r.o., too) that makes the wheel more sensitive. Average people can rotate
the wheel from 20-50 cms distance when using the resonator, and "better" ones
from 2-3 meters, just by "looking" at the wheel.
[Pozn. Akely: Tohle je moc optimisticke, me se to i s tim rezonatorem,
coz je plech na obrazku vyse, tocilo, jen kdyz jsem mel ruku u toho.]
I have made some high-sensitivity wheels as well. These are magnetically
levitated, thus the friction has been decreased. Unfortunately I had to give
up this line of research due to lack of funding.
Recently I have been working on the theoretical side of the issue. I try to
figure out the physical nature of this energy. My suspicion is that the
electrodynamics in chiral media (like living tissues) is quite different from
the ordinary, achiral media. I wonder if you are interested in these issues.
I could help you in this regard.
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* ZAVER: Probuh! - to snad by nemelo byt tezke pro fyziku vedet nebo
zjistit, cim je ten jev zpusobeny...? Myslim, ze nema cenu, abych to
sam (nebo nekdo z vas :) v domacich podminkach zkoumal, pac ten pokus
musi byt profesionalne udelany, neb kolecko je sakra citlive. Proto se
ptam, a cekam, ze mi nekdo poradite aspon cloveka, ktery by to mohl
vedet...
Akela